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Post by TMangrove on Nov 1, 2010 5:47:44 GMT
Since the competitors so far thread is getting long, I thought I would post this request in this sub-forum. I'm looking for a playing partner(s) for the first tournament. I'm usually available on weeknights from 9pm to midnight US Central time, but I can probably play an hour or two earlier if I know in advance (Tuesday is out this coming week, though). If need be Saturday morning might work, but I'm not a morning person so it wouldn't be before 9am.
Good luck to everyone this week!
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Post by jturner on Nov 1, 2010 6:29:42 GMT
Hey tman,
I am scheduled for a 4some on Wednesday. Once completed I will be very happy to setup a time to play, as early as Wednesday night.
However, there will more than likely be some other players who will be happy to set up a match with you!
For any newcomers reading, the first round played will be official and needs to be posted for the scoreboard. All succeeding rounds played will be posted as fun/observer after your official round.
Let's stay in touch tman!
Jim
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Post by jimbob59 on Nov 1, 2010 9:37:30 GMT
Hi JT just being devils advocate here as there are no written rules for TWP as yet.
1. Whats the difference between Fun and Observer and why do we need both. They are Wigga terms. Bags only uses Official and Fun. What does IWGC use ?
Why cant we just use Official for someone posting a score and put nothing next to someone who isn't posting a score.
Eg. JT official 65 JB 69
2. Why can people not play practice rounds before playing an official round. In the real world Tiger woods would play a few practice rounds before a tournament started.
3. Whats the disconnect rule. Again WiiGA BAGS and IWGC may be different.
Ill accept anything JT just my 2 pence to get the discussions going.
JB
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Post by motnola on Nov 1, 2010 20:33:58 GMT
TMangrove, Our hours of play at night are the same so I'd be happy to set up rounds with you. I'm set to play my official round Wednesday morning (same group as JT, I think.) But will be available Wednesday night after 9:30 pm if you wanna get yours done then. We can meet in chat if that works for you.
Motnola
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Post by jturner on Nov 2, 2010 5:38:25 GMT
Hi JT just being devils advocate here as there are no written rules for TWP as yet. 1. Whats the difference between Fun and Observer and why do we need both. They are Wigga terms. Bags only uses Official and Fun. What does IWGC use ? Why cant we just use Official for someone posting a score and put nothing next to someone who isn't posting a score. Eg. JT official 65 JB 692. Why can people not play practice rounds before playing an official round. In the real world Tiger woods would play a few practice rounds before a tournament started. 3. Whats the disconnect rule. Again WiiGA BAGS and IWGC may be different. Ill accept anything JT just my 2 pence to get the discussions going. JB Hey JB! Thanks for the 2 pence! It's worth more than that for sure! Great questions - I knew they were coming... So my first response to everyone is - I hope we can get some rules in place to make it easier for everyone...... The admins have some work to do! (Note - everything I say here is subject to change when the rules get posted. Please be patient - I will speak with the boss and other admins and get something posted soon ) 1. Fun and Observer. Well, fun means you are not playing for an official score and you are not going be expected at the end of the match to confirm or keep track of scores in case of game glitch. Also, Fun play could mean that you do not necessarily need to use the tournament settings. (However, since our tournaments will have TPX enforced at setup this does not apply) As an observer it is still for fun - but you need to pay attention to the scores. If there is a glitch in the game you can help players keep track of their scores and confirm scores that are posted. This is more a guide - obs/fun to let people know what is expected of them during a match. I think that either Fun or Official should be posted to help eliminate mistakes in posting - but it will be up the to admins to decide when the final rules are posted. Now - there is no rule yet that states that posted scores need to be confirmed! So let's wait until I talk to the boss and other admins before casting these thoughts in stone! I am open to suggestions, but this will help eliminate "typos" and mistakes made in official postings. 2. Practice and Fun rounds are encouraged! Please play, play, play! The idea here is if a match is set as official (at least one person playing is playing to post a score) then anyone playing who has not yet posted a score needs to play as official also. If no players are playing for an official score then it is fun for all. Once you have posted a score - then all other play in an official match will be for fun/observing. No one should use an official round for fun or practice if they have not yet posted a score for the tournament. (my opinion at this time anyway ) 3. Disconnects - Since the first tournament has already started and we have no rules.... I encourage people to use the following. a. All scores count for each completed hole regardless of the reason for the disconnect. Keep track of your scores up to the point of the disconnect - and begin keeping score again at the next uncompleted hole after restart. b. If the front 9 was completed before the disconnect (hole 10 or greater is in progress) then restarts can begin on the back 9 using the score of the completed holes. Hopefully there will not be any invisible walls etc. to deal with this early on. I hope this helps answer your questions JB. Again, I apologize that we do not have the rules posted yet.
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Post by jimbob59 on Nov 2, 2010 8:24:44 GMT
Nice reply Jt
You and Holy are the admins so I will go with whatever rules you decide. I am as you are aware posting here as an ordinary member and encourage all other members to have your say.
This is a new club which is very open at the moment so heres your chance to make your views felt and to have rules that suit as many people as possible.
A SCENARIO
Jimbob and JT are in the chat room
JT would like to play his Inaugural competition round. Jimbob wont play it because he wants to practice the course and settings first. If he played it with JT then it would have to be official. In addition JT is away from home tomorrow so cant get his competition round in before the closing date.
JT looses out with no competition score Jimbob looses out with no practice round
If Fun rounds were allowed at any time then they can play there and then. JT plays his competition round and Jimbob gets a practice round in
They are both happy
I would go for allowing fun/practice rounds at any time only an official round being posted as official.
This also simplifies the rule. Just as you have with the Disconnect rule which is now very clear.
Dont agree with people practicing - they will do it off line , use time at the other clubs to do it. It cant be stopped so keep it out in the open
Only my views however, Anyone else got a view?
Jim
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Post by jturner on Nov 3, 2010 7:40:26 GMT
JT looses out with no competition score Jimbob looses out with no practice round If Fun rounds were allowed at any time then they can play there and then. JT plays his competition round and Jimbob gets a practice round in They are both happy Jim Hi Jim. Thank you! I agree this would be a great benefit and a strong argument in favor of this scenario. I really only have one concern, and maybe I am being a bit too cautious. What if, Jimbob shoots a great practice round, and at the end of the match declares that he "misspoke", that he really meant that he was playing official and wants to post the score? This puts Jim in a very tight spot. My concern is someone might take advantage of the rule and cheat. (and all the consequences that may follow). This is my main concern - I do not have enough experience to know if my concern is unfounded. Comments and feedback from our members (like JB) will be very helpful...please keep them coming! (note - I will start a new thread soon in a members only area for followup - I kind of forgot the primary reason for this thread, The Inaugural Tournament!).
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Post by cosmicsheep on Nov 3, 2010 14:12:08 GMT
JT looses out with no competition score Jimbob looses out with no practice round If Fun rounds were allowed at any time then they can play there and then. JT plays his competition round and Jimbob gets a practice round in They are both happy Jim Hi Jim. Thank you! I agree this would be a great benefit and a strong argument in favor of this scenario. I really only have one concern, and maybe I am being a bit too cautious. What if, Jimbob shoots a great practice round, and at the end of the match declares that he "misspoke", that he really meant that he was playing official and wants to post the score? This puts Jim in a very tight spot. My concern is someone might take advantage of the rule and cheat. (and all the consequences that may follow). This is my main concern - I do not have enough experience to know if my concern is unfounded. Comments and feedback from our members (like JB) will be very helpful...please keep them coming! (note - I will start a new thread soon in a members only area for followup - I kind of forgot the primary reason for this thread, The Inaugural Tournament!). In my experience, before you start a game you make it clear to your playing partner wether you are playing official or fun...this is done in the chat room obviously. I have played many comps at BAGS and IWGC and never has there been any confusion or cheating regarding this.
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Post by owhatstheuse on Nov 3, 2010 16:33:25 GMT
Tourney 1 _ BOOYAH!
SiP73 and I are teeing it up official @ 10:30 (UK) _ 6:30 EST (US) tonight. First come first serve if any gamers want to join us. Shoot me a PM if your in.
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Post by owhatstheuse on Nov 4, 2010 12:34:49 GMT
Tourney 1 _ BOOYAH! SiP73 and I are teeing it up official @ 10:30 (UK) _ 6:30 EST (US) tonight. First come first serve if any gamers want to join us. Shoot me a PM if your in. Seves' broadband connection took a hike last night. We'll be trying again tonight at the same time if anyone wants to join in - for fun or official. PS. I also agree with JB about the "pyth issue". It happens to all of us at one point or another. I have never seen it even discussed before as a possible scoring change .... just my 2 cents.
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Post by pythagoras345 on Nov 4, 2010 18:34:46 GMT
PS. I also agree with JB about the "pyth issue". It happens to all of us at one point or another. I have never seen it even discussed before as a possible scoring change .... just my 2 cents. This is by far the easiest approach, and the one I would vote for.
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Post by pythagoras345 on Nov 4, 2010 18:38:39 GMT
This also leads to my position on the official / unofficial.
KISS - LESS RULES AND LESS ROOM FOR ERROR.
So if you tee up using tournament password, it is official round, unless all official rounds are already recorded, then it is an observer round. If you want practice, tee up off line or without the official pw.
No gray areas here, no mis-communications, no admin rulings EVER required.
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Post by owhatstheuse on Nov 4, 2010 19:28:26 GMT
This also leads to my position on the official / unofficial. KISS - LESS RULES AND LESS ROOM FOR ERROR. So if you tee up using tournament password, it is official round, unless all official rounds are already recorded, then it is an observer round. If you want practice, tee up off line or without the official pw. No gray areas here, no mis-communications, no admin rulings EVER required. Not bad! keeps from getting kissed by your sister as well! I second that pyth - if you "join game" with the password for the first time - your official .... sounds good.
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Post by mleffler221 on Nov 9, 2010 7:31:11 GMT
I am in favor of if you join the game with password you are official.
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